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Post by Mankoi on May 2, 2015 4:33:00 GMT 1
Anyone else seen it yet? Besides Maiy, I know she has. I'm told it came out a little early on your side of the puddle. Just came out May 1st here. Fortunately I happened to be in town anyway that day...
I liked the film overall. I do have to say I love how many people will just keep on driving while Captain America and a giant robot fight on a semi. I'm not sure what I would do if I saw that happen, but I imagine I'd probably at least pull over, instead of trying to maintain standard following distance and go about my business.
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Post by Maiyrhia on May 2, 2015 8:58:45 GMT 1
Aye, I've seen it. I do agree on the driving! I didn't think of that while watching the film, but now you mention it...
WARNING: SPOILERS.
Some rapid-fire thoughts: - I liked Pietro and Wanda, although I think the X-Men's version of him had us spoiled. I'd say I look forward to seeing more of him, but... not that I'm really convinced he'll stay dead, mind you. Given Captain America's comment of "if you get killed, walk it off" I'd not be surprised to see him return. - Was it just me or was that film CLUTTERED? So much was happening, I barely had any time to get invested in the main villain. - I'm kinda hoping the Avengers who've cleared off stay gone. I love them all, but I won't argue with a shift of crew and changing things up. I WILL miss Hawkeye, but (see previous cluttered point) there really are too many characters for one film now. Getting shot of some of them might help that. - I felt this film either suffered from Middle Film Syndrome, or from Sequelitis. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say MFS, I'll give Marvel a chance to prove that their phase 3 is going to improve. If it doesn't, I'll have to rediagnose this as Sequelitis. Hopefully it does! - Overall a good, fun film. Wouldn't be worth paying the £15 round trip to get to the cinema and watch it again. Compared to Hobbit #2, which I watched three times in the cinema, and Hobbit #3, which I watched twice. Or X-Men DOFP, which I would have watched multiple times if I'd been able to and only didn't because of being toooooo busy. - I will, however, be getting this on DVD, along with the rest of Phase 2. - ... although I'll have to skip the first scene of Guardians of the Galaxy. I still haven't let Mankoi forget that he gave me a lengthy spoiler-free review of that film and failed to give me a trigger warning for that first scene. I haven't let him forget it, and I never will.
EDIT: Mankoi, are you sure this doesn't belong in General Discussion? It's not about the roleplay, it's about the cinematic universe...
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Post by JaccusRed on May 2, 2015 11:01:11 GMT 1
I agree they did try and do a bit too much with the time the had but then I'm not sure I'd have been willing to cut anything either. One thing that did bother me was how Black Widow was portrayed, I have no problem with her getting a romance and actually like the idea of going with who they did, but she 'coincidently' became far less involved in the main plot, and got captured for no apparent reason. These things seem connected to me, also quite a lot of her dialogue came across as way out of character, that weird sterilisation conversation was just completely out of no where. The rest of the film I loved though.
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Post by Mankoi on May 2, 2015 15:35:22 GMT 1
This may well belong in general discussion, I really wasn't sure. I opted to put it here because this is also where I put the Squirrel Girl thread.
By the way, I advise reading Squirrel Girl. It's fantastic.
I also felt like the film was cluttered. Partly because of characters, but also partly because the phase 2 films didn't lead into this film as well. In the first Avengers film, basically some jerk from space just pops in, grabs a cube of almighty power that happens to be there, and gives everyone the finger. You don't need to establish much more than "This is the tesseract. It is powerful," and "This is Loki. He's Thor's brother. Bit of a prick," in the film, because all that stuff is in other films. You just need a couple quick lines to explain the gist of it to those who didn't see the other films, and then move on.
In Age of Ultron, the creation of Ultron has to be explained fully in this film. As well as the Cradle, and creating Vision, and the background for the Maximoff twins... In the first film, they were using almost entirely pre-established material and a very simple plot, so it was easy to fill in the stuff between action sequences with character development and some good throughlines. Age of Ultron tries to keep the same number of action sequences, but they have to fill the time between them with a lot more exposition, so all the characters miss out again.
I also agree on Black Widow, though I did find out that the actress was pregnant at the time of filming (which must have made that "I can't have children" thing awkward) which may have also meant some of her scenes may have needed to be cut if they were too action based. I'm told they had to use digital acting on a stunt double for some scenes as it was, so I could see that getting expensive fast. (My source for this is TV Tropes though, so... grain of salt...)
I really bet Thor is wishing he hadn't smashed up that Cradle thing so bad. That probably would have patched Quicksilver right up.
As a final note, I kinda want to watch Boston Legal now...
EDIT: Also, Vision cut off Ultron's internet access. That is COLD. Don't mess with Vision.
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Post by Prof. Cinders on May 2, 2015 18:35:57 GMT 1
Wasn't as good as Winter Soldier. I rather enjoyed it; very back-story heavy, which I always appreciate, though my lovely boyfriend didn't as much. I didn't really see it as cluttered, though. More like Tony being... Tony... a lot. Oh, and they'll all likely have at least a brief return in the next Cap movie (Civil War) - especially Iron Man, who has a huge part to play in it. It'll likely stay as this set of new Avengers in the next Avengers film though. Also THANOS EEEEEEE
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